I do believe Tim might possibly be post the new goes through of your own photo so you’re able to their site, and certainly will post one link to brand new newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Palms

relationships of participants, (this new Wingfields had been explored rather well, and you can even after my typo with the Howard members of the family, I actually do have the pedigree correctly annotated here in RI) >>

I am not sure this is certainly an exact report. Does their book address the latest age group *prior* in order to John Russell who e the mother and father of Age Russell exactly who m Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn partner out of Malise

You will find the following to help you complete some of the gaps your reveal forthe high-grand-parents of Reginald ce Cheyne. Among the primaryadditions stems from their paternal grandmother (NN in your blog post) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de- Moray), aunt and you will coheiress from Freskinde Moravia off Duffus (their particular moms and dads Walter de- Moravia and you may Euphemia ofRoss appear less than). There is the matter about their maternalgrandmother: I hold she is Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd partner from Malise,Earl away from Strathearn. This would about promote a near explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen out-of Strathearn (wife successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the daddy, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed to own Helen de- Menteith, cousin from Joanna and wife out-of Sir ColinCampbell regarding Lochow (d. bef May 1343).

Unfortunately, I do believe you will find additional openings into the Muriel Keith’sancestry (come across lower than). Regarding either improvements suggested on tablesbelow, please recommend of any indexed conflicts, otherwise what documentationmight mean any error detailed.

You will find holes both in ancestries, however, ferociously in that from Reginald.To possess Muriel Keith, their own high-grandparents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I am not saying alert to one files giving support to the character associated with the companion as the Barbara Seton. When you yourself have indexed one, excite suggest.

3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander off /Fraser/ Chamberlain out-of Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser partnered Mary Bruce (otherwise de- Brus), together with a beneficial son John identified as ‘nepos’ out-of Robert _the_Bruce. This young buck are a younger John, although not, rather than his heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord off Aboyne, try the fresh son regarding a primary relationships (so it wife unknown; We have this into the authority out-of Andrew MacEwen).

step three Walter de Moravia (child of Hugh de Moravia, and you can Annabela off Fife) 4 Euphemia out-of Ross (dau. off Fearchar, 1st Earl off Ross and you may NN deBrus)

5 Malise, 6th Earl away from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de- Menteith (child away from Walter Stewart, Elizabeth out of Menteith and you will

The consanguinity ranging from Muriel Keith and you can Reginald ce Cheyne -proven to have been a-grandson out of Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – is the sole facts (in the event the indirect) these two individualshad a minumum of one ancestor/ancestress in common.

You will find openings in both ancestries, however, ferociously for the reason that away from Reginald.To own Muriel Keith, their own higher-grand-parents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain out of Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 https://kissbrides.com/sv/bbwcupid-recension/ Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/seven NN Fraser8 NN

To possess Reginald le Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , 2 NN, step three NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 and 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, early 15the century, into the Leicestershire. Elizabeth is the fresh new d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Now, I do want to link Agnes so you can Sir Roger Beler, murdered from the Eustace de Folville, however, I am unable to discover any facts about her. Is anyone assist?